SMP 1.8 Server Map Discussion

The 1.8 update to Minecraft will happen eventually. Please use this forum post to voice your opinions on how we should go about running the server once it is released.

The map WILL be reset. Even when using the same seed to generate the map, the terrain will be different due to the new biomes and terrain generation codes and many features from this update will not occur unless there is new chunk generation.

Should the server start from scratch, or should we retain certain things from the current map. If so, the following points need to be discussed:

CITIES - Should any towns/cities be copied across?
PLAYER CREATIONS - Should we allow individual players creations (i.e houses) be copied to the new map? We will either copy any requested creation or none at all.
MONEY - Should players be allowed to keep the money earned?
ITEMS - Should players get to keep current items?

We will take your views into consideration and put these questions to a vote. These are issues that need to be thoroughly discussed as many players have put in many hours of hard work into the current map. Voting for the money and items will occur at a later date.

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i think like monuments and stuff should be moved as well as the money

if you could, the wording of the poll is off, the question is not yes or no. i think major cities yes should be moved over, that meaning, more that 4-5 people live there and it has to have been actively used by atleast 25% of the cities populous. player creations, these should be voted for. money and items, i liked narfins idea for chests and, maybe percentages of money guests, 350. trusted maybe the 500, mods 750-850, OPs 900-1000 and SOP 1000-1150. as for the chests, i dont think SOPS/ ADMINS really need them… seeing as they can spawn their items…

This is the first poll. We want to know if we should start from scratch or not. Then if people don’t want to, we will vote on what to keep.

EDIT: Poll changed.

I personally want most things to be gone. I want something where we come together as a community and build some really epic cities/towns.

Although in saying this I also want to answer some of the questions.

Cities: A lot of cities are abandoned and while they may look good, why not restart making them if we can get some spawned supplies to build some of the first cities to show the server off. Although if the town wants to be saved by the creator aswell as the community it should be moved over, in a(n) place that the owner wants. But going back to building new cities from scratch, if we build them close (enough) together we can have a nice rail system of some sort to transport guests around without warps.

Player Creations: Personally no, unless they are really good and the community wants them not just one person. I dont really know what more to say about it because thats how I feel.

Money: This one is kind of up in the air for me, while it did take a long time to get the money I today, I can always get it again. But maybe there is some system that for each rank you can keep a certain amount of money, although it shouldnt be a huge jump from rank to rank. I’m still unsure.

Items: The big one, again this is my opinion but no, aside from tools I dont think we really need tons of items. Sure you may have collected a whole bunch, as I did today 4 stacks of glowstone. But again you can just get it again an many people will probably be willing to help you get whatever you need, myself included.

I hope this comes to the attention of everyone because it is something we need to decide as a whole.

Edit: Im going to modify the poll to make it more clear. Change it back if you feel I did wrong.
Edit: I think I beat you to it

Cities: In my opinion, only BigCity/Newspawn, Oldspawn, Sandy Point and The Docks should be moved over. Nothing else. Really though, only Bigcity/Newspawn is the really important one.

Player Creations: As sip said, no unless the community wants it moved. I would say at least 10 people.

Money: Everyone who is Member+ should get their advertised 350 coins. Donators should also get their money for donating. No money earned by slaying mobs or selling blocks should be transferred.

Items: No item transfer except 1 pic and 1 sword of whatever materials the player has.

CITIES - The main ones i.e. bigcity, sandy point etc, definately. Depending on how much work it is, others could be too, also depending on the quality of them. I would like to copy my work in progress city over If I have chance…
PLAYER CREATIONS - Again, depending on the quality.
MONEY & ITEMS- Well, a system like before mentioned would be good:
no items and 2000
1 chest and 1000
1 double chest and 500

Obviously that would need to be tweaked, depending on how much money the player has, to stop them gaining money.

Or, another idea which I would like, is to start of with, no items. That is one of the best parts of minecraft, having to survive, and upgrade, and it doesn’t take long. I started a new SP map the other day, and got full iron tools within an hour or so.

And gggeeee, in regards to spawning, we CAN, but we don’t. Like I said, the fun is in surviving :slight_smile:

CITIES - I voted for selected cities and community voted creations be moved over. I assume the major ones include Fortress and Forsyth. I know Fili wants to redo Forsyth, so I am unsure on its status. Oh, and what about Andy’s snow city. I am sad that it never got used.

Each creation will need either 2 SOPs and up approval, 3 OPs, or at least 6 votes from the community. I assume OPs will be helping with the move itself.

MONEY and ITEMS - I truly like Liam’s first idea. The idea that you can take a chest with you as a “starter kit” is appealing to me. Imagine it as if we are taking the spawn boat to a new land. We can only pack so much.

I decided that Forsyth should be destroyed along with voters on the corresponding thread.

But anyway, yes, a huge community effort to build epic cities that were near eachother, looked realistic, and impressed new players, would be a cool thing to do. If I do decide to rebuild Forsyth (WHAT DECIDE?). Yes, that’s right, I’ve been thinking of just taking it easy and doing something else such as being the server engineer/road builder, but hey what can you say, I want a break.

If I make a museum it will feature small replica sizes of the old bigcity, and other places.

You’re going to destroy the people that voted? :stuck_out_tongue:
Haha sorry couldn’t resist

i like only selected cities going over, aswell as the best play creations maybe?
as for items, liams idea is beast. we could just renovate warehouse for that :smiley:

Forsyth, Bigcity, and spawn.

That’s what should definitely be saved.

I only want 2 things copied over as I’m still working on them, Hogwarts and my log cabin! :smiley:

Sorry but Forsyth is going look at the Map Discussion area.

i say we should keep everything except towns
but chests should be kept too with the same stuff the player had

Well what we have so far is:
Some towns will be copied over, and you will not be able to keep all of your items, unless it all fits in a chest (possibly, that seems to be the favourite idea so far).

So… no…

I agree with sip’s idea :smiley:

Goin with Kyle on this one, some things definitely need to be saved but the majority of it is fairly expendable. Obviously i’m quite adamant about Fortress making the move to the new map with us

I just thunked of something

Start again. No items whatsoever. Only the money players should have (350 for member+ and extra for donators). No building transfer.

BUT

Put the current map available for download so work won’t be lost.

[ Edited by TheZestyLemon. Reason: Lrn2sp3ll ]
Lemon, that was the point :stuck_out_tongue:

Ruby that is a great idea, so we can a reminisce about the old map :stuck_out_tongue: and everyone could still have what they made if it didn’t get moved over. Personally I would be fine with no items and a little money.