Dear PCB community,
You may have already decided what to do with me and 121wer but I had to say this anyways. Lots of you have known me and 121wer for a long time and I´m sure that you realize what we did that one day that we got banned, wasnt because we are genuinely bad people. The only reason we did that was because of a moment´s boredom and stupidity. Although I know that that is not a valid excuse, I ask that you give us one final chance. Many people have done much worse on this server and still gotten a second chance. Those people might have commited another offense after you unbanned them but the difference between them and us is that most of you know us well. Since we have been on this server for such a long time I´m sure you were able to figure out what kind of people we are and I doubt that you came to the conclusion that we are bad people. I´m sure many of you have also done things that you regret and although in real life there are no second chances, we are deeply sorry and we ask that you give us one this time. Our way of proving that we will keep our word and not do anything bad again is that like I said many times before, this was a one time thing and it is not the kind of thing that we would usually do.
Sincerely,
Leothellama and 121wer
P.S. even if you dont unban us we don´t want to be remembered as the people who teleported everyone into lava because that is not the kind of people we truly are
Well I just want to clear up that the only reson we felt entitled to be unbanned was because we didn´t know that we werent meant to be unbanned in the first place. Once we figured that out, the whole situation was clear. And can you please tell me apart from this what have we done that caused trouble or problems. That was some of my reasoning of why I thought we should be unbanned. We have never done anything wrong apart from this. For those who simply didn´t care for us to be unbanned, we can show you how valuable we can be to the server if you would just give us a chance.
When were we unbanned and rebanned ka? If you are reffering to when we were unbanned for this same offense and then rebanned because we were never meant to be unbanned then that obiously does not count because we didnt do anything bad to get rebanned, we were simply rebanned because we werent supposed to get unbanned. What I mean by valuable is that if some people didnt like us before we can show them that we can be helpful and kind.
I realy cant think of anything bad weve done apart from this
Honestly, if you think about it PCB has nothing to lose and both PCB and us have something to gain.
I ask if the staff could reconsider their decisión after all that I have said.
EDIT Ka_52: Please do not double post. Use the “modify” button to add to your previous post.
Both of our answers combined:
We would rejoin the community, rebuild our trust, help out in building projects, and have a good time with all our old friends.
We should be let back on the server because PCB has nothing to lose, worst case scenario we grief a couple blocks and get banned (which wont happen). PCB can gain 2 useful and active players and we can gain a friendly community to play minecraft with.
We stopped playing minecraft due to computer and internet issues. Now that everything is fixed we would like to come back to our old community. We didnt make an appeal sooner because it would have been pointless as we couldnt play anyways because of technical issues.
Sincerely,
Leothellama and 121wer
I know I’m leaning more towards believing you at this point, but the decision is not mine alone. It seems the general consensus is still to deny your appeal. I am sorry to see anyone go. Unless public opinion changes quickly, the decision is still no.
Thank you for that Kyle. The problem is many of the ops, sops, and admins havent posted anything in our threads. If they could explain why they doubt our legitimacy it might be something to which we have a justification, explanation, or counterargument that changes their mind. I say this because i can only think of one reason that people wouldnt want us unbanned because all through our career at PCB we havent commited any serious offenses, we´ve been helpful in building proects, we haven´t been rude to anyone (unless provoked), and we´ve been very active up until that one day.
The one reason they might not want us to be unbanned is that they don´t believe what we say. To those of you who simply dont believe us, i can give you some reassurance. Some of you might not remember but around 1.3 when we got unbanned (it was temporary sicne there wasnt supposed to be an unban) we didn´t do anything wrong. During that time we didn´t do anything wrong, we even participated in the building contest, helped people with towns, and other things. Even if that is not enough proof for you, then think about it this way: the worse that could happen is that we grief a few blocks get banned again and that the end of the story (that WILL NOT happen). The best that could happen is we rejoin the community, and PCB gains, two active players that can help out with building projects, towns, etc. and we gain a friendly community to play minecraft with.
If not believing us isn´t the reason why you don´t want us to be unbanned then please speak up. Give us the chance to explain. For example, ka_52 said something about us having many chances already when we were unbanned and rebanned. Im still not sure what he was reffering to because the only time that has happened was around 1.3 (what i explained in the 2nd paragraph) in which case we were given a second chance but we did nothing for it to be taken away (I do understand why though). If he was reffering to the time around 1.3 then it seems like he didn´t have the situation clear so I hope my explanation changed his mind. If he wasn´t then I have no idea what he was talking about because I can´t remember any other time when we have comitted 2 serious offenses where we would be unbanned and rebanned
Tl;dr (only if you are in a hurry because its hard to explain everything i want to say in few words)
If you dont want us to be unbanned because you dont believe us:
during our temporary unban in 1.3 we did nothing bad
worst case scenario we grief a couple blocks and get banned
best case scenario PCB gains 2 active players, we gain a friendly community
If you have a different reason you dont want us to be unbanned:
Write on this thread and say what it is. it might be a misunderstanding or we might have a justification.
For example, if I understood correctly what ka_52 said: he wasnt too clear of the situation where we were unbanned and rebanned because there was never meant to be an unban.
The staff have voiced their opinions in a separate thread in which the general consensus is that you both remain banned. Perhaps you should of thought about the repercussions when you were originally banned.
You´re saying that in between kyle´s post and my post they decided again?
In that case they didn´t even read what I said after kyle´s post.
Just seriously take a moment and think about, like ive said many times, whats the wrost thing and the best thing that could happen.
I understand you voted last week but I asked that with all that I have said that the staff reconsider their decision.
So many people and this server have comitted offenses just as bad or worse and still given a second chance. Some have even been given multiple chances. I ask why not us?
That is the staffs’ choice. And not “many” people have committed AVO attacks and tp’d people into lava losing everything. So do not whine to me about life not being fair.
Thank you for that Kyle. The problem is many of the ops, sops, and admins havent posted anything in our threads.
[b]Discussed in a staff thread.[/b]
If they could explain why they doubt our legitimacy it might be something to which we have a justification, explanation, or counterargument that changes their mind.
[b]Again, it was discussed in a staff thread. It is up to staff to release what they said themselves.[/b]
I say this because i can only think of one reason that people wouldnt want us unbanned because all through our career at PCB we havent commited any serious offenses,
[b]The initial ban shows otherwise.[/b]
we´ve been helpful in building proects, we haven´t been rude to anyone (unless provoked), and we´ve been very active up until that one day.
[b]I can't say much about this, most is fair enough, although activity is a bit irrelevant. I would also say teleporting people into lava classes as upsetting players.[/b]
The one reason they might not want us to be unbanned is that they don´t believe what we say.
[b]There isn't much that isn't to be believed. The majority of staff know what happened, but you have simply said "we will be good, we will be helpful and build" - which is a very generic unban reason. However, I am impressed with how persistent you are being with this.[/b]
To those of you who simply dont believe us, i can give you some reassurance. Some of you might not remember but around 1.3 when we got unbanned (it was temporary sicne there wasnt supposed to be an unban) we didn´t do anything wrong. During that time we didn´t do anything wrong, we even participated in the building contest, helped people with towns, and other things.
[b]You said yourself, you shouldn't have been unbanned, however the fact that you behaved during this time is good.[/b]
Even if that is not enough proof for you, then think about it this way: the worse that could happen is that we grief a few blocks get banned again and that the end of the story (that WILL NOT happen). The best that could happen is we rejoin the community, and PCB gains, two active players that can help out with building projects, towns, etc. and we gain a friendly community to play minecraft with.
[b]What's to say you won't do the same thing again in the future?[/b]
If not believing us isn´t the reason why you don´t want us to be unbanned then please speak up. Give us the chance to explain. For example, ka_52 said something about us having many chances already when we were unbanned and rebanned. Im still not sure what he was reffering to because the only time that has happened was around 1.3 (what i explained in the 2nd paragraph) in which case we were given a second chance but we did nothing for it to be taken away (I do understand why though).
[b]It wasn't a second chance as the ban should have remained, but I see what you mean here. People shouldn't need second chances really, if they enjoy the server why not just behave?[/b]
If he was reffering to the time around 1.3 then it seems like he didn´t have the situation clear so I hope my explanation changed his mind. If he wasn´t then I have no idea what he was talking about because I can´t remember any other time when we have comitted 2 serious offenses where we would be unbanned and rebanned
to liam599
we are persistent with this because we really want to go back and really regret our actions.
The only proof i can give you that we wll not do this again is that we wouldnt be wasting our time getting unbanned and then becoming trusted again just to teleport everyone into lava.
We will be good and helpful and build is pretty much all we can do to help PCB.
I have to go for a few hours but please keep considering this and dont lock it
Thats fine. In that case there is no risk of us doing that again but seriously:
AVO ATTACKS?!?!!? what in the world makes you think we were responsable for that?
What the hell are you talking about???
I knew there were AVO attacks on the server but we had abosolutely nothing to do with them.
Please Ka get your information straight. accusing us of AVO attacks sin´t helping this thread at all.
I really have to go now so I will try to get on my phone