Hello, I wanted to have the staff take a seat for a second. We need to make it clear that promoting to adv and pro is not meant to be taken lightly.
The reason I bring this up, is because I have seen a few advbuilders who have a lot of time, but atrocious buildings. One showed me the builds that got them promoted and they were just okay. It was the only two builds that would be considered okay.
Basically, I’m upset that two staff members said it was okay to promote the player, when their work was sub-par. I want the ranks in classic to actually represent the skill level of the player themselves.
Staff positions are separate ranks. Skill does not determine a staff position. A guest could get OP if s/he has proven him/herself to be a good, reliable person. You know, well liked by staff and been with us a long time. (AKA, I am not a great builder blah!)
I don’t know if i have done to many promotions to adv builder yet. I mean after I screwed up the first time and didn’t fully understand the promotion things. Could you maybe tell us who the player was and maybe show us a picture. Maybe even have a picture of something that would be great for and adv builder to build.
Initiate - Builds pretty much anything which is average, not a griefer essentially.
Builder - Above average build. Nice features, maybe a bit basic.
Adv - Usually a pretty big build, lots of good details.
Pro - Something which makes you do this : O_o VERY good build, has the ‘wow factor’.
Initiate - Builds pretty much anything which is average, not a griefer essentially.
Builder - Above average builds. At least 2 good buildings that impress some skill. Possibly shows signs of being limited due to space restrictions.
Adv - Requires at least 3 good builds. Each should be impressive. Their skill should clearly be above the majority. Requires 2 staff members to approve the promotion. To get a map of their own, they must sign up on the forums.
Lately, I have been giving titles to this rank and up.
Pro - Something which makes you do this : O_o VERY good build, has the ‘wow factor’. This rank either requires their entire personal map to be filled with good builds, or several EPIC builds. Pro can have multiple maps. THREE ops should approve this promotion.
I did not really want to say, but the player was Worrior. You guys should know how I feel about him. he is not ready for adv, and yet he has it. He asked me to OP him again as soon as I saw him with the rank…
Well, when i saw him before he was adv, he built this pretty good baseball field. I told him that he needs to build another pretty good build or two like that. I don’t think i ever really saw his other builds.
Yeah, i never really approved worrior, so i am not sure if he counted my vote already or not. Cuz i remember coming after he got promoted and he kinda just told me a bit about it. I am not quite sure if i ever saw his other creations. What creation did he show you kyle?
I almost demoted Worrior for threatening a player that he will tempban him, clearly showing that he doesn’t have the responsibility of handling an advbuilder rank. I think Sword or arkger stopped him from doing so, and has been given a verbal warning.
And having been logged on in classic for the past two days, I agree that some of the advbuilder’s creations aren’t even worthy to be one. I’m quite strict to promotion from builder to adv and so on, since I’ve had a lot of experience dealing with a ton of amazing creations. I have a high standard, so I’m likely saying no to most of their work.
Anyway, may I ask what map specifications are we to give to advbuilders?
Will they have a 128x128x128 map size?
Will they be allowed to use physics?
Should we allow other players to build in their maps(ozone)?
Can they have more than 1 map?
Perhaps we can have initiates to advbuilder and initiates to probuilder? This is to further increase the steps they have to take to get to the highest rank for building which will clearly showing that they deserve a rank when they work really hard enough.
about the titles i got mine by a command called /eco. it was not a ops fualt i got a title and it is removed now. I dont know if i have the right to say this so dont kill me for this, i saw worrior and kinghoneydew with titles and said(WARNING THIS MIGHT BE MEAN BUT DONT KILL ME) They said Kyle a admin gave them titles. i dunno why but thats what they claimed and Kyle please understand what im talking about and DONT kill me okay? Is it true? and why would a admin do that? Well i think they were lying about Kyle giving them the titles so i wouldnt bother them but if they were telling the truth then i will apoligize to you Kyle. I just wanted you guys to know.
They were not lying. Don’t worry Andy. I wrote in my second post here that I have been giving adv titles. The only reason I was doing that is because I had been seeing other Adv with titles for a while, and figured it must be something I missed.
There was an issue with the /eco command where they could buy titles, but that has been fixed. Fatso, can you lay down the law on titles for me? I may have been mistaken…
Ok, as for maps.
Adv gets a map after signing up on the forums. 128 128 128 is standard, but you may give 256 size if you think they can use it. Do not give them more than 1 map.
Pro can have multiple maps. I don’t want them having more than 5 if possible. Some players are worth more though.
Physics is a standard 5 for EVERY map except those that need it for their games. You may temporarily set it to any other physics while you are there (or at least logged in).
The people that can build there is up to the owner of the map. The default is to let anyone build (as far as I know).
About worrior, the only two builds he had was a football field and a baseball field. Both were in another player’s map. The baseball field was the first good build I have ever seen from him.
Now i remember, i saw his baseball field and told him to build another thing that was good like that. Then he built a football field. I said that it needs a lot more detail, then the next time he was adv. I never noticed that he was building in a place he shouldn’t. I figured when he got his adv rank that he got it cuz he did a lot more on his football field and someone liked it.
Also, i may be a little soft when it comes to ranks, but i try not to give out adv rank so easy. I know i haven’t given any pro ranks yet. I am a little soft on some ranks cuz, well i guess i am just to worried about hurting the person’s feelings, even though i don’t know them at all. XD
Cuz i remember coming after he got promoted and he kinda just told me a bit about it. I am not quite sure if i ever saw his other creations. What creation did he show you kyle?
it was called something along the lines of: