Asking for promotions is rule 11 in the creative rules. And as far as I can tell, asking for promotions is kind of a like one of the Ten Commandments of minecraft… like griefing and spamming. This kid was obviously trying to get creative mode/operator to grief. Even ggg could of noticed that (no offense ggg <3). I’m sorry, but this kid needs to stay banned. He claimed he reviewed servers, worked for mojang AND planet minecraft, asked for Him to be promoted to either Op or Creative mode to easily view the server. I’m sorry, but this kid needs to be banned.
(I haven’t banned him. if someone else feels that he should be banned, you do it. Its 1:22 am here :T)
I agree he is certainly asking for a ban, but I did not get the impression he was warned not to pursue his line of questioning.
It is a rule, but it is no where near as severe as griefing or spamming. We punish based on the severity of the rules broken. Even then, we usually go through a process of warning them first. Making bold claims like he was is not in our rules at all, but might be considered a disruption in the server. An equivalent of spamming perhaps.
I still don’t think what he did was ban-worthy. If you like, we can do a vote on this. I will concede to public opinion.
Meh hards right in a way but so is kyle. Honestly I think we should tempban ALOT more. It would be way easier to punish people for doing things that arent as severe as griefing and whatnot. And second time they do it when they come back, we ban. I mean theres bound to be a bunch of players out there that will realize the server aint half bad once they get a second chance and might turn around and do good for the server.
Hell, I was banned over a year ago when I first joined pcb for griefing(Didnt even realize it at the time.) I made an appeal because I wanted to come back and now I’m a friggin OP
Never EVER believe this. Several griefing teams have used this to get in, it seems plausable at 1st, but it’s stupid really. Planet Minecraft don’t review servers themselves as far as I know, they rely on user submitted reviews.
(x-ray, ore finder, etc. [And I think that should be a temp. ban because theyre not doing any Real damage, only to themselves.] )
It’s not just themselves, if you have been working on making a good mine for a few days, and getting some pretty good stuff from it, then someone xrays and gets all of the diamond from around it which you could have found, the mine is pretty much useless, or you have to take the time to extend it. All in all its pretty damn annoying. And on a survival server, you are supposed to SURVIVE.
if i may i would like to put my two cents in… this guy DID lie about everything. he claimed to be from Sweeden, and to work with Notch and Jeb with Mojang. im fairly sure he lied about being there to “revue” (review) the server.
idk about anyone else here but i was always raised that stealing and lying were clumped together in the same boat. i personally know that i wouldn’t feel exactly safe with someone like that on our server. i mean for all we know he was asking for creative mode and op powers to grief jus like any other AVO follower. i’ve been on other servers where the OPs and Admins were dumb as hell and ended up letting ppl like this do stuff and the next thing you know the spawn point is covered in lava or blown to hell.
so as i have said i am not an OP. BUT when i see someone who does all this i would have done the same as Hard in order to protect the rest of us.
I agree that lying is worthy of temp-banning, and this guy in particular may deserve worse (as in a longer ban), but I cannot see how his actions justifies a permanent ban. We can make someone chill out with temp-bans. If he continued his claims, then a full ban is in order.
NO one would be dumb enough to promote someone in this manner. If we did do some kind of interview, we would require them to join our forums and make an official request to do so. That way, we could verify who they are first. Anyone who is serious about tours and the like would understand our precautions.
I disabled the tempban command in my plugin, there are bits of code for it but I would have to write major parts again for that to work. Also I dont really find this a bannable offense, especially since I dont think that rule was ever voted on in the first place. I am sure it was not in the original set of rules.
I’m frankly quite surprised the vote is even close. The question was simply do we ban people for just ASKING for OP. We might argue the merits of banning this particular player, but I was more concerned by the concept of people being banned for asking a question.
Everyone deserves fair warning before a ban. The only exceptions I am aware of is if they clearly grief, hack/cheat, or do some form of clear harm.
I still say no either way. For me it feels like just another reason to give someone a ban, if they start spamming chat with that, give them a warning and a kick. If they continue then ban, if they really care they will appeal.
Ok guys, dont get mad at me, i know djbry. I told him about this tactic and that sometimes it gets you admin (I was joking, I havent tried it) so you can grief a server madly. Sorry about this, but he should be banned because he had bad intentions
Ok, if we have confirmation from another source that he was trying to grief, then a ban is appropriate. I just don’t want to hear that we ban people for simply asking a question, and not actually doing anything wrong.
